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It really depends on the kind of law that you have. As the Soviet joke goes, "severity of the laws is mitigated by not having to follow them".


I know. We definitely aren't a nation founded on outright treason and insurrection, and thumbing our nose at authority and doing the moral thing isn't in our DNA in any way, shape, or form.

Frustrating that some people think otherwise.


There can be moral reasons for treason. The founding fathers certainly considered themselves moral and principled.

Your frustration is misguided. Simply do not confuse illegality with immorality. Human beings generally want to feel like they're doing more good than bad.

As for "the DNA of a nation," we would probably spend a few hours figuring out the definition of what that even is just for starters.


From the outside, unironically calling any group of politicians "fathers" feels so weird. I know it's a super common turn of phrase, and that's kinda what gets me.

> Human beings generally want to feel like they're doing more good than bad

We're experts at convincing ourself that what is beneficial to us is also "good", whatever this actually means.


We can either rage against the era we were born into, or we can accept what we can change and what we cannot. One path leads to less frustration than the other. Be careful that you don't find yourself enjoying irritation.


It's because they created a nation from whole cloth.

Also, forefathers is a common term.


They were by facetious and sarcastic. ;-)


Then my sarcasm worked. We are all of the things I said we aren't.


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Maybe you just have a faulty sarcasm detector?


It's no longer possible to tell. Some of the ideas that avg Americans have on the way just about anything works is frightening.

My favorite lately is that the US was the real bad guy in WWII because we used nukes.


That US was a "real bad guy", or that nuking cities was an evil and unnecessary thing? The latter, while not universally held, is a fairly common take, and has been that way for a few decades now.


I wasn't being sarcastic.


ITAR is quite sensible. We can make mistakes and we can be sensible but wrong.




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