1) It holds deeply sensitive data and does so in the US. In times of increased mistrust of the US, many (including myself) see that as a risky choice.
2) Speaking of mistrust in America and American corporations, have you heard their execs talk? It's absolute cuckoo-town:
> If they are not scared, they don’t wake up scared, they don’t go to bed scared, they don’t fear that the wrath of America will come down on them, they will attack us. They will attack us everywhere.
Well, you've convinced me. I'm scared of America, I'm scared of American companies and I'm scared of your company in particular.
Are you sure they hold sensitive data themselves though? My understanding was they integrate their tools with customers own data and don't have access to it themselves (at least in theory).
Of course I agree that quote is insane and you can dislike them for political reasons, but I want to understand the technological fears and see if any are unfounded.
The article mentions “while the underlying data may remain under the MoD’s control, any insights derived from that data do not. The implications of this, the insiders say, are far-reaching, especially because of the vast quantity of personal and other data the company has access to across UK government departments.”
It's really the insights you get from data that is of value.
It's no problem at all if some company has a list of GPS coordinates showing everywhere I've been until they start looking to see what those places are and start using that data to make assumptions about what I'm doing and where I'm likely to go in the future.
So far, all the relevant court cases that have actually been adjudicated have come down on the side of training LLMs to be a sufficiently transformative use of copyrighted material to fall under "fair use". If a case about the GPL were to break the same way, the GPL would still hold, but it would have no hold over this particular use as the GPL can't restrict "fair use" any more than any other set of copyright restrictions can.
Whether they are derivative works in the context of copyright law (which the GPL relies upon) has not yet been decided by the courts AFAICT. So your assertion may be your personal opinion but we don't know if the law agrees or not yet. From some quick searches it seems that the answer isn't a slam dunk one way or another and is still working its way through the courts.
How does that prevent anything? You'll still have the exact same issue. Unless you think a google employee would be the same class as a small mom and pop employee just because they both own a share of their workplace.
Yeah thanks for answering, im also in the camp of understanding the truths underpinning the steel man argument behind the original phrase but not seeing a widespread clear path towards a better future with the proposed solution. What's the solution for class conflict? The meat packing workers coop wouldn't be as favorable to work in as the elementary school teacher worker coop nor as the carpenter worker coop. How do you handle technological innovation? How would you defend against other nations attempting to invade and steal your stuff? Would the weapons worker coop take the hospital builders materials to produce weapons?
I really dont think it nets a higher standard of living and will introduce millions of deaths. Not sure how thats more ethical
I dont see a mechanism for dismantling the class system at the global level. What information do you have in your mind where you can see a path where the entire class system is dismantled? I am imagining 100 human clones in the jungle where one happens to be closer to a large stick, the person picks up the stick. Now you have a class system. The stick bearers and the non stick bearers. Its as intrinsic to human systems as set theory is. You'll never get rid of it. Unless there is a class of nonclasssystem enforcers that can tear down anyone who tries any funny business. How do you prevent abuse? Brain lobotomies? AI nanobots in the bloodstreams?
Theres not enough time and energy for everyone to have an equal chance of testing in every coop with equal playing fields.
How are you going to have a world revolution without massive genocides given how real politics works?
Both require steel, labor and intelligence to say the least.
Also geography itself will create classes of people. Those that populate among the shorelines and those that populate in the landlocked regions.
How will any of it actually work fairly and enforced without having more of the same bs we have in current power structures. (Oligarchs/autocracies with a working class that can threaten revolts occasionally)
As somebody fluent in quite a few languages, language definitely affects even the way one thinks about things. Translation will always be imperfect because it's between different conceptual spaces, not some sort of mechanical replacement.
1) It holds deeply sensitive data and does so in the US. In times of increased mistrust of the US, many (including myself) see that as a risky choice.
2) Speaking of mistrust in America and American corporations, have you heard their execs talk? It's absolute cuckoo-town:
> If they are not scared, they don’t wake up scared, they don’t go to bed scared, they don’t fear that the wrath of America will come down on them, they will attack us. They will attack us everywhere.
Well, you've convinced me. I'm scared of America, I'm scared of American companies and I'm scared of your company in particular.
Good job, I guess?
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